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Wasnt Andy there?

Who else looked at their nose to check 😂 👃

I totally agree

Pourquoi ce n'est pas moi qui fait ça ? 🤔

This was fun. Well put. That damn aerial clip made me say "HOOOOLLLYYYY SHIT" out loud in the middle of the office. So that's nice. Always good to hear stuff like this. It's an opportunity to do a mini self-audit while you're listening that you're still making good decisions.

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your description made me tear up, i have always wanted to pursue this sport ever since a little child. I have been taking the time and steps to get properly familiar and couldn't be more excited about this next journey in my life. One love!

insane. what a dream

In my opinion tandem base jumping is just a bad idea in general. The general public has no idea hiw difficult or risky base jumping, even jumping static lines, is.

Thank you 👏

I know this is an obvious joke but I do have 1 serious question. Was Annelise's slightly over rotated exit meant to sell the illusion of a first jump ..or did she make a mistake and recover?

Where is the best place to learn BASE jumping in the states

Salut David ! Est-ce que c'est avec Vincent Cotte que tu voles ici ?

what happened to lemmings base?

Bro! Just watching this with a nurse. Best predentation on this topic so far!!!! Huge love bro!!!!!

My good friend SLIM, Roland Simpson RIP was a pioneer of this tracking technique 😂

lol, the beginning, what a great example of, "Hey I just got here you dick!"

Great video. I really respect you putting yourself on the chopping block by making it. I agree 100% with your point about kids being just as stoked with something else. That's kinda been my view of it as well. But this is just another one of these things that no one can do anything about. As awesome as it would be, I doubt any of the Tandem Masters that are jumping with kids will watch this and think to themselves 'he's right, I won't do that anymore' Now people are running businesses from Tandems and it's getting more and more popular. It's another element of the Double Edged sword within BASE. We all have the freedom to do whatever we want with no repercussions. But thats also what makes it so dangerous. Unfortunately I think it's just a matter of time before there is a Tandem fatality. People die every year due to some complications from Static Lines so it will happen. Hopefully it doesn't happen with a kid.

Faites gaffe à pas vous prendre les câbles du téléphérique pendant la descente ^^

Not sure what accidents you heard about, I know about 2 off-headings that happened in Europe and were hidden/covered. It happen with passengers who are also skydivers. It ended pretty bad for both passengers, since they took the hit (they were able to recover), but almost nothing happened to the instructor. In general tandem BASE from a cliff is not a good idea, not to mention with kids.

Nice one dude. I think it's a big step too far to be offering tandem base to anyone under 18, and honestly I think it's kinda weird to imagine a rational adult wanting to experience a tandem base jump, but that I wouldn't oppose so hard. As you say, a kid can have just as epic an experience with games and other types of adventure activities where splatting into a cliff isn't a possibility.

This is a great talk. Thanks David ❤

kids don't count. who cares ? Redo this video with an important subject : step-mothers

I agree 100%, David.

Beautiful reasoning. Thank you

Well said. Thanks for the thoughts. I think you are right when you say that kid tandem base ends up being more for the greater enjoyment of the parent and/or the instructor rather than the kid. How can they not enjoy it more when it goes right, since they have a better grasp of the risks, or have a financial and reputational incentive. I speak as a jumper and a parent, so I understand the temptation to give your kid a one-of-a-kind experience and to do something that no one has ever done before. But, like you said, the severity of the risk (i.e., possibly death) is not worth it. Base jumpers generally have strong inclinations to be the first to do something new and get away with it. I think just as much blame should be on the parents in these situations since they are primarily the ones responsible for their child, not the rest of society. Granted the instructor bears responsibility as well since they usually know the risks better than anyone and are the ones presenting themselves as the professional. Parents should do a better job understanding the risks they expose their children to, especially when it comes to things on the extreme ends of the spectrum, like base jumping.

Are parents doing this to try and get rid of their kids?

You nailed this David, thanks for speaking out about this all… I have been speaking to several people this past week regarding this issue.. and a question I posed was is an single tandem base instructor a parent also?. Don’t get me wrong I am ‘pro tandem base’ in the correct setting.. but as a BASE JUMP Instructor/mentor, and a father would I take my own kid for a tandem BASE jump at 4-5 or even at 10 ?? Fuck no… it’s mindblowingly irresponsible… we can never justify a bfl listing with a child ever

Sounds like modern narcissistic parenting. We have a legally defined limit for adulthood and consent based activities. People mature at different rates hence a legal limit. 5 is definitely not cool. Thanks for the video. You just said what most of us are thanking 🤔

Awesome lad ! On point as always 🤙

Well said. Very articulately put.

Spot on David, well said!

Absolutely bang on David, one fatality and the whole show will be fucked .

100%. There is absolutely no good reason to base with a kid. If the parents are *really* that keen to get their kids up into the air for a thrill, I'm sure a normal tandem from a plane would blow their kids little minds just as much while having MUCH less risk.

Thank you ❤

Amazing arguments and ideas, well presented. Expected risk being chance x outcome is an economic concept, and it applies here too!

David. I've been out of the sport for a few years, so I don't really have a horse in the race, but I agree in your analysis. Thanks for sharing your well-formed opinion and analysis. Fly safe, jump safer.

100% agree. 5 year old should be playing in the woods or with Lego. They can find out later if they want to go base-jumping. It's not a choice you can make rationnally so young. Love you dude !

Amazingly eloquent David and great points 🤘 I wonder how tandem skydiving was viewed when it first started ?

It's great to see actual open dialogue here. Like it or not Tandem BASE is here, and dialogue is a better tool than abuse and memes. Just to point out two things: - I have actually travelled to the bridge to train Tandem BASE. It is not high enough to train object avoidance IMO, but I have subsequently trained it over many jumps at higher altitude. Not ALL instructors operate the way you described. I don't believe any tandem skydive passengers understand the risks there either and, maybe this is off topic, but I don't think tandem skydiving would have the chance to evolve if it were invented today. I think the same problems would plague it as we're seeing with Tandem BASE today. Just to offer a counter argument and to open a dialogue there... :) This is a different topic of course to whether children can make a choice to take a risk though - the whole point of your video. To be clear, I agree with you. I feel very uncomfortable even taking children on tandem skydives. I feel differently with adults who've been properly and honestly informed. IMO there are many difficult to control variables in Tandem BASE and without proper regulation (which would be very difficult to create and enforce, but perhaps not impossible), the risks dramatically increase. I also believe that with the right approach, training, passenger preparation and selection it can be done sustainably from the right solid object. But not globally, by anyone, without any regulation. Thanks again for the honest conversation and taking a serious, constructive attitude 🙌

Tandembase is bad enough. With kids? I'm at loss for words. Cut the lines, self police.

Well said David!

It’s sounds like several of us have the same thoughts on this. It is a huge responsibility. A major mission for me has been to always try to put the good of the sport in front of any personal desires or drives. It is risky to take children and I also worry about the future of the sport if something were to go in the negative with a kid. I really want to take kids and make unforgettable memories for them. I would have been so down to jump as a five year old. I’ve taken a few kids because the parents were highly experienced jumpers. I was still pretty hesitant because of the massive responsibility and worry about the unknown. It’s gone alright so far but that doesn’t convince me that it’ll always go alright, so that’s why Im hesitant. The biggest worry for me is the influx of people getting into it that don’t seem to have all the ingredients for the perfect recipe. I guess that’s still just an opinion tho, so it might not mean anything to a lot of people. My intent was to create good experiences for non jumpers, so that it might shine a positive light on our sport, making it more accepted. It’s a fine line and sensitive to backfire.

very healthy style of thinking imo

I want to see a cage match with you and Jimmy

Totally agree

Haven't listened all the way and not a base jumper but.... I think consent and the needed knowledge to give Consent is the most important aspect there. A minor usually is not able to give that consent and thus should not be able to do a Tandem Base jump. Also a tourist usually isn't able to fully grasp the danger involved with a tandem base so that is why I see a problem..

10000% this !! I honestly thought it was CGI the first time I saw it as I couldn’t fathom how someone would let their child tandem BASE.

I don't even think ADULTS can truly make an informed decision that are outside the BASE/sky community, they really do not understand the risk (even on a static line jump) but I respect their right to decide for themselves (even though it's stupid). These kids are an entirely different story, they can't consent and it's wrong.

Thank you